For those of you that watched the debate last night, I hope you learned something about each candidate. For those of you that did did watch it, now is your chance to catch up to speed.
If you watched the debate, read these two articles and answer the following questions: The 2012 Presidential Debate Awards and Facts Got Bent Again in Last Debate.
What did you think about the debate? What did you learn, if anything, about each candidate? Do you have any other "awards" for this debate? i.e. What was your favorite part about the debate? Favorite line? Were you surprised by the amount of facts the candidates got wrong or spun?
If you didn't watch the debate, read these articles about it and answer the following questions: Minute-by-Minute Presidential Debate Highlights, Facts Got Bent Again in Last Debate, and The 2012 Presidential Debate Awards
Summarize three key points from the debate. What was each candidate's position on them? What did you learn about each candidate? Were you surprised by the amount of facts the candidates got wrong or spun?
I thought the debate was really boring. It is not something I would watch if I didn't have to. Really the only thing I learned was that both candidates are kind of sassy and have a major attitude towards each other. I did not really have any "favorites" during the debate. I could not tell what was being spun because I did not really have any background knowledge on anything they were discussing.
ReplyDeleteThe debate was full of last second punches and shots. They are both like salesmen and like to insert their words that sometimes full of crap. SOme more than the other. Some of their ideas kind of blow me away like what are they thinking but I really don't know. Truthfully though, it was really boring. My favorite part is "Murica" in almost every one of Obama's sentences. They both twists facts to make them sound better but it's easier to point out. Overall, I think we need to care of ourselves before we should intervene and take care of other countries.
ReplyDeleteI thought that, as usual they act like they're children and bicker in front of millions of people tuned in. I learned that they use outrageous facts against each other, that even if they were true facts, no way would anyone belive them. I also learned that Obama is allowed to criticize things Romney wants that Obama did while in office. I think I'll give an award to Romney for giving the MOST shocking information ever, which was when he told America that our test scores for English and Math in the 4th and 8th grade are all rated #1 in ALL 50 states. Can you believe that?? I enjoyed watching their really fake smiles to each other, that was comical. Of course their "facts" were interesting, but rarely true.
ReplyDeleteOverall I thought that the debate was boring, with a few interesting moments. For me it seemed hard to me to pay attention all of the time especially to Romney. I don't know exactly what it is but in order for me to pay attention to Romney I had to be looking at the tv screen, but with Obama I could be doing something else while listening to him speak and hear every word, and point he was trying to make. I was also interesting to see which candidate had blinked the most thinking about the article we had read earlier in the year, in my opinion when each candidate was listening to the other speak was when the candidates were blinking the most. I was surprised at how Romney tried to change his story from what he had stated earlier in the year, if he actually did say that earlier in the year, I do not know for sure because I have not kept up with the election.
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ReplyDeleteOverall I had a hard time understanding the debate. The subject would change very easily and I would still be caught off gaurd by a statement made five minutes before. Lots of the situations being talked about were ones that I hadn't heard about. Such as, the Egyptians. Both of the candidates seemed to blink excessively when I was paying attention to it. I had a hard time learning about the candidates because they would turn their answers around a lot. The part I most understood and enjoyed was when the subject was changed to education. It had to do with me instead of the military. There were many mistakes and facts wrong. I wasn't very caught off gaurd because I know these questions are asked on the spot with no earlier knowledge of the questions. Of course the candidates will freeze up and get facts wrong, but they are trying to save themselves on the spot.
ReplyDeleteTo be honest I don't like watching the debates because I feel like there's almost no meaning to what the candidates say sometimes. I know it's good to be informed but the debates seem to just annoy me. I learned about the different ideas each candidate had about each issue, but most of them I already knew. I think the main thing you can get from the debates is how a potential president can handle situations and how well they respond when they are challenged and corrected on the spot. I don't know if I have any awards to give, but during this debate I definitely was paying attention to blinks, although I can't say who blinked the most because they both blinked a heck of a lot. I wouldn't say I was surprised by the amount of spun information. Neither candidate is going to just state a fact for what it is without putting a little edge on it to make them sound good and of course they're going to do what they can to make the other candidate sound wrong. I did find it funny when the moderator made the Obama's Bin Laden slip up, but my favorite part of the debates is always when it becomes songified :)
ReplyDeleteIn all honesty, I was not very interested in the debate. I watched it, but I had a hard time staying focused on the candidates' ideas because I lacked the interest to pay attention. Because I am not very educated about the topics that the two men debated, I decided to pay more attention to the way the men presented themselves, and their presentation behavior. I found that Obama's voice was much easier to listen to than Romney's. His tone gave him great confidence, thus making him more believable at times. I thought that Romney began the debate with more nerves than Obama, but as the debate progressed Romney's arguments became more confident and strong. One of the most memorable quotes from the debated was when Romney stated, "If I win the election.. sorry when I win.." I had very mixed feelings about this statement. I found his confidence almost overbearing, but then I also applauded him for being courageous and so boldy stating it. I was not surprised how many facts were spun in the debate. I found myself being very skeptical when listening to all of the facts that they were presenting.
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ReplyDeleteThe main points that they focused on we're foreign policy and war. They debated about the best route for foreign policies. It was clear that both presidents were worried about our ties with the Middle East, however, it seemed like a "I'm closer with them than you are" or "I'mm better than you are" contest. I think it's funny that one of the titles for the documents is "Facts Got Twisted Again in Last Debate, because that is such a normalcy. I also found it intersting that so many people made a big deal about Romney "lying" when Obama had probably made just as many exaggerations or lies. I also was observing the facial expressions and other side stuff that influences our thought, and found that there are so many small things that effect our opinion, it is hard to ignore the small things and only focus on the core, real problems.
ReplyDeleteI thought the debate was actually fairly interesting. I enjoyed listening to each candidate go back and forth over on view points and beliefs. I learned that both candidates immediately throw up a "wall" when one candidate attacks the other. Both showed signs of disapproval in their faces and body language. I think that best hair award would HAVE to go to Romney (comb-over fah dayz). My favorite part of the debate was during the actual debate part where both candidates could go back and forth and say something to each other and respond. My favorite line was: "There's these called aircraft carriers..." I honestly wasn't very suprised at the amount of spin that was used in the debate last night. I honestly expected it to be as much so it did not throw me off when I read the facts.
ReplyDeleteI thought the debate was interesting, becuase I always think they are interesting, but I thought it was much more boring than the first two presidential debates. I think it is important to listen to them, so that we know what our possible future leaders have to say, but I also know to take them lightly because of all the lies and sugar coating. I had not learned anything that particularly stuck out to me. I think they basically just repeat the information in different ways from the last two debates. My favorite part of the debate was when the cadidates discussed education. I thought both of their thoughts on it were very interesting, however, I agreed strongly with Romeny that the teacher's union needs to go. I was not surprised with the amount of lies the two candidates told. They always do and always will. I normally don't pay attention to the "facts" that they tell; I just like to listen to their ideas for the country.
ReplyDeleteOne of the debates key points was that the only way to stay a superpower world wide was to have a strong economy. Romney agreed with this and Obama did to, kinda. Another key point was our relationship with Isreal. Romney says he loves Isreal and Obama says he loves it more. And finaly there wass the Libian attack on our emmisary. Romney said it was Obamas fault and Obama said that it wasn't and it was the state departments fault. I learned absolutly nothing in this debate due to the candatites constintly attacking each other.
ReplyDeleteI thoroughly enjoyed the debate. It was a good time for everyone and I tripled the minimum tweet amount with plenty of honest, comedic statements. I did not learn much about the candidates. I realized that Obama has a terrific sense of humor(horses and bayonets), and that both are quite intent on saying what they want to say. I have a few other awards. The "Best Nickname" award goes to Romney, for the nickname "Mittens". The nickname was coined by Shelby. Other than that, I don't have any more awards worthy of mentioning. I do not have a favorite line, but that is mostly because I do not have a good memory on such things. Sometimes. Finally, I was not at all surprised by the amount of facts that were incorrect. I do not expect candidates to get every single facts correct. They have plenty of other things on their minds. More importantly, they do not care much on whether or not the stated facts are correct because they know that plenty of voters do not care enough about validity to research the facts. That is all.
ReplyDeleteI found the debate last night to be rather interesting, however, it did not keep my attention as well as the other debates. Both candidates told the public what they thought they wanted to hear. I did not feel the commentator was in complete control of the debate because he allowed the candidates to talk over each other. I was surprised by the lies told by each of the candidates. I found it humorous when the moderator slipped up and said "Obama's Bin Laden" even though it was just a slip of the tongue it made me laugh. Since the start of this class I have been more aware of the schemes political candidates try and make. It is very easy to become gullible and not have your facts straight. It was evident last night that both candidates forfeited the truth to pursue their desires. However, one of my favorite parts of debates is listening to the commentary afterwards. As unbiased as news stations try to be every news station is biased and sway voters to believe a certain way.
ReplyDeleteI liked this debate more than the other in two in that i felt that the two candidates were more at each other at times. It seemed to me that they were mor comfortable at arguing with each other and had better come backs. I did not really learn anything other than I am agreeing more and more with the candidate I like. I believe that Romney, out of the facts that were true, had really good information to back up his arguments where i fell Obama did not as much. I give him the award for better research. The amount of facts that were fake both suprised and did not suprise me. I felt some suprise, but then I felt like I already knew their were going to be lies during the debate. I think my favorite part, even though some people did not do this,was since I was watching the debate throught my xbox, their were small polls being asking what we thought about what the candidate was saying or if we believe what he is saying.
ReplyDeleteI think that the debate was rather boring because I am not interested in politics. I did learn things about the candidates that I did not know, such as their views on things that I did not know were even happening in the world. My favorite part about the debate was watching the candidates & how they respond & their facial expressions. I was thorougly surpirsed by the amount of facts that the candidates got incorrect because if they are running for president, they should know their facts & have everything correct.
ReplyDeleteI thought that the debate started out rough, but got better as time went by. At the beginning of the debate, it seemed like there was a competition between the two candidates over who could interupt the other more, and over who could make the other look worse. It seemed as if everytime a candidate would say something, the other candidate would interupt immediately saying that it wasn't true. As the debate went on, however, the candidates seemed to settle down and let each other talk more. I did not really learn anything from this debate. Whenever a candidate was asked a tough question, it seemed like they would lead you on a wild adventure by beginning to talk about something completely irrelevant. They dance around the question so much, that by the time they were done speaking, you wouldn't know what you just heard. My favorite line from the debate, was definitely "We also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our military’s changed … the question is not a game of Battleship.” Honestly, at this point, I am not surprised at all by the number of facts that the candidates spun. This was the last presidential debate, meaning that it was the candidates' last chance to get a low blow in on the other candidate. Speaking of low blows, it seemed like Obama's foreign policy was to just attack Romney whenever he was asked about it.
ReplyDeleteIn the debate there were three main points that were brought up and I thought they were: the issue of China in world trading, troubles in the middle east and other global problems. These thoughts were different depending on which candidate was talking. Obama says that his administration had done many things that have helped reduce "unfair" practices, also he states that the al Qaeada terrorist group was diminished on his watch.
ReplyDeleteRomney says that the Obama administration has not done enough to restrain Chinese practices and he also says that he won't "roll over" for China. Romney has some differing ideas about the war in Iraq but he wants to bring most the troops home by 2014 although the US will still need to help Afghanistan and Pakistan. I learned a bit about each candidates foreign policy. I was surprised at the facts that were spun but not because of how many there were, I expected there to be more "spun" facts, I mean after all it is a political campaign that's what we've come to expect.
The presidential debate which occured last night was very interesting. I was only able to watch a few segments of it, yet I still learned many things. Each canidate had their own unique way of speaking and spinning facts. I did learn that they each had very harsh tones at certin times and they really exagerated certin areas. My favorite line in the debate was when Obama was talking about how much he cared for Isreal. He said, "and when I went to Israel as a candidate, I didn’t take donors. I didn’t attend fundraisers. I went to Yad Vashem, the Holocaust museum there, to remind myself the nature of evil and why our bond with Israel will be unbreakable.” Yeah it seems touching but there are so many lies behid this quote. Obama has not been to Isreal since he became president. This is why Romney accused him of treason for his lack of effort to keep the peace in Isreal.
ReplyDeleteI was supprized to find out how many differnt things the canidates spun. When I listen to it it seems so convincing however when I see the truth it makes me second quess all of the "facts" they have ever presented. Watching this debate has opened my eyes even further to how political figures can spin information out of control.
This debate was over foreign affairs and domestic policies. Obama talked about killing Osama bin Laden, ending the war in Iraq, and pulling US troops out of Afghanistan. Romney talked about rebuilding the military and about Afghanistan. I did not learn much about the candidate's beside what they think the other person is doing wrong. There was a large amount of facts that were lies. It was interesting to see that sometimes the candidate telling the lie blatantly ignored the fact that it was not true. For example, Obama said that exports to China have doubled since he has been in office but the facts say that exports grew from $69.5 billion in 2009 to $103.9 billion in 2011.
ReplyDeleteI was more interested in this debate that i have been in previous debates because I felt that I understood the topics that they were addressing better than I have in the past. The part that I did not like was that they continued to interrupt each other. Also, there were some points when I felt as if the candidates were not given a fair chance to defend themselves. I felt that they had very condescending tones towards each other. They both added spin to their main points, but i felt that Obama would completely contradict something he said last term or even in previous debates. I also find it difficult to get past Obama saying uhhh before every sentence, so that distracts me. I was not surprised because I figured that would spin a lot of their information, it did sometimes shock me on what information they were spinning though.
ReplyDelete3 key points from the debate were, with the amount of spin shown on these websites that the candidates made, both Romney and Obama were about equal on the number of lies and truths told in the debate. A second major point in the debate is how, more often the public is beginning to use fact checkers to see if these statements made by the candidates are true or not. This is very good and much needed by our society to see the real truth about who is going to run our country. The third main point was that each of the points that both Romney and Obama made, had bits of facts that were twisted when told by each candidate. It was a like a competition of who can make their argument sound more like a winning argument over the other, since they were purposely trying to lie to the public as much as they could. One example of this was Obama's punch towards Romney when he talked about our navy comparing it to the history of "horses and bayonettes". Each candidate was very one sided and did not seem to want to even listen to the other. On the other side, most of the public believed Romney's punch towards Obama about this apology tour during his last four years in office. Many of these claims by the candidates, even though not true, made a great impact on the audience which could overall affect the election results. It seemed as if Obama was more on the defensive side since her constantly had to defend his last four years in office, while Romney was very critical and offensive. Since Romney has not experienced a term in office, i believe Romeny was on an upperhand and that it was not a fair campaign argument. After this whole discussion about the campaign,i was not suprised with the amount of spin the candidates used, because it is becoming more and more popular.
ReplyDeleteI thought the debate was very entertaining. I learned that Obama spends more time attacking his opponent than talking about his own polocies. Mitt Romney did not act as likeable as Obama did but his points were better. I give this debate the most biased award because it did not matter what Obama was saying to people because the line graph at the bottom went up every time Obama spoke. My favorate part was when they both argued about Military policy. "What Mitt Romney said is simply not true." Basicly Mitt Romney said he wanted proritize balancing the budget and gave a five point plan to do so. Obama just disagreed with and attacked Romney while at the same time bragging about his foriegn accomplishments. I learned that Mitt Romney knows how to keep his temper while Obama does not. I did not see that many facts that the candidates got wrong. If they got something wrong it was a small minor mistake.
ReplyDeleteKeeping troops in Iraq: Romney wants to bring back all troops by 2014. Obama wants to slowly transition out starting in 2014. Both don't think that will be the end of the issue and will continue to interfere when needed. Obama claimed that Romney waffled on the subject, but failed to mention that he made a deal with the Iraqi government to keep more troops there.
ReplyDeleteBankruptcy: Obama claimed that managed bankruptcy for Detroit automakers didn't include a place for the government. It actually did, revealed by a column in the New York Times.
Israel: They both agreed to defend Israel if attacked, but Romney pointed out that Obama had not visited Israel as a president. Obama did visit twice before his presidency though.
They picked out less important things that the other got wrong because they didn't find anything major that their opponent got wrong. I wasn't really surprise by the amount of spin. As long as it sounds like the truth and supports their claim, they'll use it.